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shockwave[xpow]

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1. The Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 6:10:06 PM GMTDT

Dear reader,

Here's a compilation of tips for beginners who are interested in learning basic principles behind Starcraft. The post is long but you don't need to read every part to get started. Just look at whichever sections are relevant to what you want to learn; e.g. the latter half of the post is mostly just explanation of theory that you may or may not be interested in. As a general caveat, there are exceptions to every rule, so I'm not claiming these are always the right thing to do. They are just good principles to follow absent any compelling reason not to; as you get better, you'll start recognizing when to deviate from certain rules.

THE "BIG FIVE" BASIC PRINCIPLES

Here are the five basic skills that I think every new player should start out trying to get decently good at.

1) Always be building peons (SCV/drone/probe) from your town hall (town hall (CC/hatchery/Nexus) and put the peons to use on minerals/gas. Don't ever stop. Your CC/Nexus should always be flashing, your main hatchery should always have at least one drone building from larva. If you need to queue up peons, do it, but try to avoid having to do that since it ties up resources. When you get gas, typically put a maximum of 4 peons on it if unless it's far away from your hall.

2) Never be held back by your supply limit. Always build supply early enough in advance so that you're not waiting for your next depot/overlord/pylon. E.G. Generally you should start building your first depot/overlord/pylon when your supply reads 8. In later game, build it much earlier if you're pumping units faster.

3) Try to keep your resources as close to zero as possible by spending whatever income you're getting. If you have a barraks, make sure it's always making marines. If it's making marines and you have leftover money in the bank, build another barraks or tech, expand, etc. Just don't let your money sit in the bank.

4) Dont make too much static defense (cannons/bunkers/turrets/sunkens/etc.). Build those minimally. E.G. 2-3 cannons is about enough for each base you have, use mobiles for the rest of your defense. If you follow steps 1-3 well, you should not have to build any static defense early. In recreational play, never incorporate an early sunken/cannon/bunker into your regular build, you do not need it. So, do not start off building a forge and cannons with Toss, make a gateway and zealots instead. If you're losing because of following this advice, ask on the forum and we'll help you figure out what you're doing wrong.

5) Scout early. You'll want to use either a peon or an overlord if you're Zerg. When your supply reads 10, take a peon off your resources and send him around the map. Just hold down shift and click on various spots on the minimap.

LEARNING THE GAME

I would recommend the following steps to actually getting better at the game, working your way up from first computer opponents to real ones.

1) Go through the single player campaigns, at least the Terran one, they're fun and they teach you various basics. Make sure you log onto b.net at least once so you can get patched to the latest version. Don't worry too much about strategy when going through this; e.g. you may not be able to practice the Big Five in some missions if resources are limited or you're forced to build a lot of static defense to survive.

2) Next, try playing some 1on1's against the computer. I would pick simple maps like ladder/LostTemple or Challenger. Play until you can beat the computer consistently. Stick with one race, I recommend Protoss because they have the simplest build/economy structure but any race is fine.

3) Then try playing 1on1 against the computer without building any static defense until you can consistently beat it. Try to beat the computer as fast as possible, play aggressively and send your first units to attack when you get them, don't let any units sit in your base doing nothing but instead be constantly on the offensive.

4) Get online and play against real opponents. Start by creating "1on1 newbies only" games and kick out anyone who has an appreciable record, or not if you don't mind getting slaughtered. If you lose, save the replay, watch it, and figure out what your opponent did that beat you. Then try doing what he did against your next opponent. This way you're always copying people who are better than you. If you need practice, you can always play against the comp and get good at executing your learned strategy until you're comfortable with it.

5) If you can't get online and are creaming the computer regularly, try adding more computers. 1on2 should be manageable without having to build any static defense. If you can't do 1on2, do 2on3 where you ally yourself with one computer.

6) If you have specific questions about strats or things you've seen, post them in this forum. Do not post very generic questions like "How do I get better at Terran?", but rather stuff like, "My opponent made a bunch of wraiths in my last TvT game, I have no idea why but he did beat me, can you explain that strat?" Do not post those kinds of questions in this thread; this post's intention is to give a broad overview of general strats versus race-specific help such as counters and build orders.

THEORY OF ECONOMICS

Let me explain some of the rationale behind the Big Five now. For basics, my philosophy is that economic management is the key to any RTS and thus should be the first thing you learn how to get good at. If you can get money in as fast as possible, and spend it as fast as possible, then you'll do pretty well, and that's what the Big Five focuses on. If on the other hand, your opponent attacks you and you die with 1000 minerals in the bank, that's wasted money that could have e.g. been another 10 zealots or what not and you may have survived the attack. Making peons constantly means that you are getting resources as fast as possible. Peons make up for their cost very quickly. There is a limit to the number of useful peons you can have especially on smaller maps since only one peon can mine minerals at once, but I wouldn't worry about that for now. Most newer players forget to make peons and thus never come anywhere close to reaching that point. If you are oversaturated, it's no big deal at the recreational level.

At recreational level, I also believe it is more important to make sure you're spending your money on SOMETHING, versus fretting about the best unit or tactic to use. We can talk about specific tactics for race matchups, but that's more advanced and is likely to cause you to focus more on advanced stuff versus making sure you have the basics. I could e.g. teach you one tactic that can win you most of your newbie games with little effort, but that doesn't buy you much in the long run. Instead, for now, just make sure you build anything with your money so that it doesn't sit around in your bank account. Good things to spend your money on include: 1) more units 2) more unit-producing buildings like rax/gateway/hatcheries 3) upgrades 4) expansions (building a CC/Nexus/hatchery near another group of minerals).

For Protoss, for example, you'll start off making probes and probably build your first gateway. When that gateway is done, start making zealots out of it while you're still making probes and pylons. At some point, you'll have enough money to build another gateway, an assimilator for gas, or a cybernetics core for tech. Doesn't matter what you make, just choose one of those and build it. In later game, the principle is usually:

1) Look at your production buildings, make sure they're all making something (zealot, goon, carrier, whatever).

2) If they are all making units and you still have enough money for another production building, start on one.

It's not uncommon in later game for you to have 10 gateways by this principle, especially if you're playing on large maps with lots of resources.

As a general principle, try to avoid queueing for creating units as Terran/Toss, because this ties up resources. If you queue up 5 SCVs in your CC, that means there is 4 SCV's worth of minerals that's waiting to be used but is not actively being used, this is 200/0 worth of resources that could be going towards your next barraks or supply depot immediately. For a more extreme example, suppose you have one starport with 5 battlecruisers queued up. Four of those battlecruisers aren't actually being built so the queue is just tying up resources. You should instead have 3 starports building 1 battlecruiser each.

Queues are a convenience but have their drawbacks. In late game, you can't be producing at 100% efficiency such that you start a new unit everytime the previous is finished, and you'll probably have some surplus of resources so queueing may not tie up your resources significantly. But at least in early game, try to never have more than 2 units, even if that, in your production queue.

SCOUTING

As you do get better and start figuring out what to build, that's when scouting becomes important. You send an early scout out for two reasons. One is to start getting to know the map, even from basics such as whether you're on a land or island. The second is to find your opponent's base and get some idea of what he's doing, such as what race he is. In advanced play, recon is very important, as most decisions are not made blindly. Heavy emphasis is placed on figuring out some way to take a peek at what your opponent is doing and then to adjust what you're doing based on that.

STATIC DEFENSE

Static defense is all structures that have an attack. A common question is, "Why not build a lot of cannons and static defense? Cannons are great units -- they detect, fire at land and air, have awesome range, and straight up will kill units better than most other Toss units for the same cost." Cannons are deliberately made better than mobile units where the tradeoff is that they DON'T MOVE. You cannot beat your opponent by having a well defended base. A good opponent will see this and just leave you alone while taking expansion spots around the rest of the map. Remember that at your level of play, economics has a huge impact on winning or losing. If your opponent has 2 bases and you have 1, it doesn't matter how well defended your base is, you're going to lose in the long run.

Sadly, playing single player missions tends to encourage mass static defense. Building cannons works great against the computer because it'll just mindlessly throw forces at your cannons and get them slaughtered. Some single player missions are in fact very hard to beat without building static defense. This encourages very bad habits for multiplayer. The computer isn't smart enough to figure out that it should just ignore your cannons. You can build a bunch of tanks and bunkers and then go out to lunch, and when you come back the computer will have no units and no resources because it wasted them all against your defenses. Players will not do this, though.

Getting more concrete, suppose you start out building 3 cannons early. That's great defense and your opponent will see this when he scouts you. This is good news for him though because he knows you've been spending money on defense versus mobile units so he's safe from being attacked by you. 3 cannons is a bit more cost than a Nexus, so this means that if you both are getting resources at the same rate, he can for that same money plop down a Nexus at the nearest resource node for free. Now you're essentially going to be fighting one base against two, and you will lose unless out of some miracle.

MAPS

I will now address the issue of map choice, as an addendum in response to comments below. My intention is not to make a strong statement that will cause controversy, but to share some knowledge that can help you make informed decisions.

There are generally two broad classifications of maps, so-called normal maps versus money maps. Money maps have overwhelming resources, enough that you will never have to worry about expanding or running dry. This includes zero clutter map, big game hunters, and fastest maps. Money maps simplify the game in many ways because you can focus just on one base strategies. And it makes some parts of basic skills more challenging because, for example, it's much hardeer to keep your resources near zero and it's not atypical to max out on 200 supply and still have near infinite amount of resources. On the other hand, money maps tend to reward strategies that are typically not feasible in other games, such as turtling (building a lot of static defense) and teching to capital units such as carriers, i.e. "turtle & tech".

If you folow the Big Five principle on those maps, you should still have an advantage over someone who does not because e.g. he builds many cannons. But, it is far easier at a beginner level to win by turtle & tech than to play conventionally, so money maps tend to favor these kinds of tactics at that level.

The type of map and experience you choose for yourself is up to you, and e.g. the vast majority of recreational Starcraft players prefer money maps because those simply the game to an extent that they don't have to learn some aspects of the Big Five. My only strong recommendation is that you start with land maps, since island maps add a whole new level of complexity and at beginner level usually involve memorizing some canned build order and attack regardless of the situation.

RUSHING
One of the frustrating parts about Starcraft is learning to defend against rushes. Even new players can learn some build order that will work against most players since some attacks are easier to execute than defend against. A common one is a zergling rush where you don't make any drones and just build an early spawning pool, this is a "do or die" attack but it often works against recreational players. If you follow the Big Five, you should be well equipped to deal with any early game attack. If you are attacked before you have many units, use your workers for defense. If you are attacked and have units but don't have enough, the solution is NEVER to build static defense. Watch the replay and see how he got so many units, it's likely that he either has better economy management, or more unit producing structures. For example, if you build a cybernetics core and gas for tech and he builds 2 gateways, then you will probably get run over by superior forces. Just modify your build order next time so that you don't tech as fast, but instead make early units. Just remember, there is NEVER a need a to build static defense to stop early rushes in recreational level. You should always be able to adjust your build or use workers.

ADVANCED PLAY
If you want to learn more about advanced tactics, I would recommend watching replays on sites such as WGTour ( http://www.wgtour.com/rep.php?datab=broodwar ). Just click on the replays and save them to your "maps" directory. Watch how the pros play, and ask questions here about things you don't understand and we'll be happy to explain.

CONCLUSIONS
Overall, pay attention to your resources and learn by watching your opponent's replays when you get beat. Ask questions here for anything you're confused about. Check out the Starcraft Compendium ( http://www.battle.net/scc/ ) since it overall has pretty good advice. Get good at the Big Five. Watch your replays afterward to make sure you are actually building peons nonstop and that you're not letting money stockpile. Good luck.

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Ztx-Tanis

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2. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 6:14:27 PM GMTDT

Nice one shock lemme be the first to say thx. This will save a lot of people trouble. =)
GJ man.

SuperSajinGohan

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3. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 6:35:49 PM GMTDT

Great post but the sad thing is not alot of people know about this site and the noobs dont know so they cant read it but ill tell them this site to read this GJ :)

http://www.Newgrounds.com
This is the best site ever =D

Draeger

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4. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 6:52:16 PM GMTDT

Unless I somehow missed reading it, the one thing you forgot to mention in that post is money maps. Basically there are two types of people who play BW. The type of people who simply play for the sake of playing and never care how good they get(1), and the people who try to make a serious effort to improve at this game(2).

Money maps are detrimental to your skills, period. If you are of the first type I mentioned, this is not a big deal. Play whatever you want and go all out. If you are wanting to make a serious effort to get good at this game, I'd recommend NEVER playing a money map in your life. There is nothing that you can learn from a money map that can't be learned better by using the suggestions shockwave made above on any other map with limited mineral amounts.

Money maps are bad for building skill because the style of play on these maps does not build good habits for the game. I think the basketball analogy is pretty decent. Money maps are like playing basketball with a 7 foot hoop (as opposed to regulation size) and a three point line half the distance it usually is. It might be fun but you really will not learn many viable basketball skills beyond the absolute basics.

How does this relate to starcraft? Money maps will destroy any mentality you have about maintaining a good economy through expanding. On these maps, your main base will never run out of money, so expanding suddenly becomes optional. If you play these enough, you'll begin working your game around optional expanding and will be completely lost if you ever decide to move to non-money maps.

My suggestion is that if you ever care about playing this game at a decent skill level, don't touch money maps. It's like smoking. When you start smoking, you think it's fun and cool. However when you quit smoking, you realize that you've screwed yourself for life. You will always have that thought of cigarettes on the back of your mind. Similarly, when you switch to non-money after playing money maps, your playing style will still reflect the money maps until a long time down the road.

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shockwave[xpow]

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5. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 7:08:16 PM GMTDT

Cloning is one of the most often confusing topics discussed on the board, yet it is a fairly important technique that any beginner can learn with very little practice.

Cloning is a method of coordinating simultaneous attacks, the word is a misnomer because you're not really duplicating a unit, it's more that you're getting a bunch of units to do the same thing to different targets. If you've ever seen the comp lockdown 12 BCs all at once and wonder if you can do the same, the answer is Yes and cloning is the technique that does this for you. This technique originated in War2 when someone figured out how to get sappers (similar to infested terrans) to all charge into a base at once and then branch off and hit separate targets.

Here is an explanation of the technique. I will use as an example the process of getting your first 4 peons most quickly to different minerals at the start of the game.

Technique
1) Select all your 4 peons.
2) Right-click them on one mineral patch.
3) Immediately de-select one peon in your wireframe portraits window by holding down SHIFT and clicking on one wireframe portrait. Release SHIFT afterward.
4) Right-click the remaining 3 to another mineral patch.
5) De-select one peon again.
6) Right-click the remaining 2 to another mineral patch.
7) De-select one peon again.
8) Right-click the remaining peon to another mineral patch.

If you do this correctly, then all 4 peons will reach different patches at roughly the same time. Hopefully the instructions are clear enough that you can practice this a bit. I suggest creating a dummy game against the comp on slowest speed, and just try this repeatedly a few times until you have it down.

Other examples
There are countless scenarios where cloning can allow you to do amazing things. Sometimes I'm even accused of using some sort of hack by beginner players when I use cloning techniques against them. I'll give some examples of where this can come in handy.

Scourge
Scourge are the most cost effective unit in the game hands down, but they are fairly difficult to use. If you just attack-move them, they'll tend to overkill units or waste themselvse on things like interceptors. The big problem with scourge is that they will overdetonate on targets. Right-click 12 scourge on one wraith and they may ALL detonate on the wraith even though it only takes 2 to kill it.

It would be great if you could get your scourge to behave better. Cloning is an easy way to do this. Let's consider the example of scourge vs. wraiths. It takes 2 scourge to kill 1 wraith. Suppose he has 6 wraiths and you make 12 scourge. You can clone your scourge to kill his wraiths using the same technique above. Replace "mineral patch" with "wraith" and "peon" with "scourge". The only trick is that you want 2 scourge per wraith, not 1, so we'll modify the technique a bit. Assume you can somehow see the wraiths, either because you have parasite or they're attacking something of yours. You do need a little distance to do this unless you're really fast or are playing on a slow speed, so I would start about a screen+1/2 away.

1) Select all 12 scourge.
2) Right-click them all on one wraith.
3) Deselect one scourge.
4) Deselect one scourge.
5) Right-click the remaining 10 onto another wraith.
6) Repeat 3-5 until you have no scourge left.

You can also do this against bigger targets such as carriers. I'll take 12 scourge, right-click on one carrier, deselect 6 scourge, right-click the remaining on the next carrier. Etc. If you're worried about your scourge getting shot down before they reach their targets, just add 1 more scourge per target than necessary. 3 per wraith or muta, 6 per carrier or BC, etc.

Ghosts
As I mentioned above, you can get ghosts to lockdown targets simultaneously with this technqiue too. Suppose you're fighting against BCs. Comsat to see where the battlecruiers are, and replace "peon" with "ghost" and "mineral patch" with "battlecruiser" in the above rules. Hit "L" and tell all your ghosts to lockdown one battlecruiser, then deselect one and tell the rest to lockdown another, then deselect one and tell the rest to lockdown another, etc. In detail:
1) Comsat where his BCs are.
2) Select your 12 ghosts.
3) Press "L" for lockdown and click on one BC.
4) Deselect one ghost.
5) Repeat 3-4 until you have no ghosts left.

Scouting
I will also use this occasionally for scouting, particularly in team games, if I want to get a bunch of cheap units to go to different areas of the map without much effort. For example, with zergling:
1) Select your 12 zergling.
2) Right-cilck them soemwhere on the mini-map where you want to explore.
3) Deselect one zergling.
4) Repeat 2-3 until you have no zergling.

If you have burrow, this is even better. I'd hotkey my zergling to some temporary hotkey before sending them off, then wait until I see they've reached their destination on the minimap, then select them with my hotkey and hit "U" to burrow them wherever they are all at once.

You can also do this with vultures and spider mines to get them to all lay mines at different locations. After you're done cloning, re-select your vultuers, hold down shift, and click back to your base. This will make your vulturse all speed out to their destinations, lay their mines, then run back home afterward. In detail:
1) Hotkey your 12 vultures to 5.
2) Select all your vultures.
3) Hit "I" and click on some spot on the minimap.
4) Deselect one vulture.
5) Repeat 3-4 until you have no vultures.
6) Hold down shift and click back to your base.

Another annoying uses
I'll also use this with BCs on the rare occasions I have them. Let's say I'm planning to attack a base but see some scary things there. I'll comsat the base, then clone my BCs to yamato different targets.

If I'm playing Zerg and want to humiliate my opponent, I'll sometimes build a fleet of queens, parasite his drone or SCV in his base, and then clone the queens to spawn broodling his peons.

If I have SVs and am playing against Zerg, I'll comsat where I think Zerg units are, and clone my SVs to irradiate different targets. Irradiate is cheap so you should definitely try this out a few times. This is absolute murder to him. Suppose he has 6 ultras sitting around nearby, and I have 6 SVs. I can use the technique similar to with vultures and mining to get the SVs to irradiate different ultras and then run back to base.

For ZvZ, scourge use is absolutely critical since ZvZ is typically all about air power and map control with mutas. Scourge use often determines who wins this matchup. I would suggest just cloning one scourge per muta. This doesn't kill the muta, but it does bring it down to a measily 10 health. Your other units can then take care of his near-dead mutas. One easy way to clone is to have scourge ready, then bait your opponent into attacking some unit. For example, I'll leave an exposed spore colony somewhere near my base, or some overlords. Once the mutas start attacking, I'll immediately clone my scourge from hopefully nearby. If you do this right and take 12 of his mutas down to 10 hp each in early game, it's pretty much GG to him because there is little he can do to recover until he can get hive and convert those into full-health guards or devourers.

Limitations
Using comsat to spot for cloning lockdowns or what not is very handy, as the ghosts will still clone even after the comsat wears off if they have not reached their targets by then. However, if you are using comsat to target burrowed or cloaked units, your clone will abort with an error once the comsat wears off, so you may have to re-comsat to maintain your lock. Also, if your targets move significantly after you lose sight, you may not get your clone off. This is because if a unit is given a target and sight is removed, the unit will go to the last known position of the target.

Conclusions
I hope this has given you some taste of the wonderful world of cloning in SC. In Warcraft3, the computer will clone for you -- if you tell 12 ghosts to lockdown one BC, only 1 will do so. In SC, since we don't have this capability, you'll just have to do it yourself manually.

Cloning opens up a whole world of possibilities to even the beginner player, and is something that can be practiced and learned fairly quickly. Again, if you need practice, just play against the comp on slowest speed and try cloning your first 4 peons to separate patches. If you get good at this, gradually raise the speed until you can clone on fastest. Then try it in different in-game situations.

Appendix I: Replay sites
Thanks to ieatkids6 2/13/2005:
If you want to watch some replays of pro SC players, you can download them with these links. Save them to your replays folder, open SC single player, and just play the rep.
My Computer --> C Drive --> Program Files --> Starcraft --> Maps --> Replays

http://www.teamareola.com/replaySecular.php
http://replays.wanjia.cc/screp/
http://yaoyuan.com/
http://www.supremestarcraft.com/repdb/
http://www.teamliquid.net/replays
http://ygclan.vgaclub.co.kr/?m=replay&board=gosureplay
http://www.wgtour.com/rep.php?datab=broodwar
http://www.reps.ru/replays.php
http://www.gosugamers.net/replays.php
http://www.pgtour.net/replaybw.viewall.php?db=bw
http://www.gamingeye.com/pc/strategi/starcraft/replays/
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=14492
http://act.it.sohu.com/war3/xingji.php

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6. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 7:19:25 PM GMTDT

Great job Shock. The only problem is that the people who need this advice often dont bother reading the other threads before they come and post some complaint. Just look at how many posts we still get from people complainging about things covered in ForumGhosts sticky. Anyway I'm sure we'll still get posts like "Teach me Unbeatable Strategy", but at least now we can point them to this thread and just tell them to learn the basics.

Reckless

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7. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 7:31:27 PM GMTDT

Nice job. Perhaps we change the title to CAPS and we can bump it all the time. Then maybe people will look at it. Or even call the post: HEY PEEPS, L00K HERE!!!!!

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Freeedom

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8. whoa.. | 7/25/2003 7:35:59 PM GMTDT

nice job Shock

How come you never got into compiling the strategy guides with Lothilear in our Gaming Forum?

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9. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 7:44:25 PM GMTDT

I miss ya shock. Going through withdrawl. Nice work.

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10. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 8:05:59 PM GMTDT

Thanks a lot Shock! I'll be sure to link this to my friends.

http://members.teamtg.com/excalibur/promap.htm
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11. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 8:16:58 PM GMTDT

I like Shock better than Steve.

Ztx-Tanis

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12. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 10:14:58 PM GMTDT

Proof blizzard still puts in effort! less then 3 or 4 hours later it was stickied NICE JOB BLIZZ!

BringOutTheGimp

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13. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/25/2003 11:37:02 PM GMTDT

Excellent post. Let's hope some people pick up a few pointers.

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Blackrayne

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14. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/27/2003 2:43:45 AM GMTDT

Wow another sticky that is not made from a blizzard rep.

Seems like this is the only forum that has these.

BTW: This forum has the most sticky now. Is MikeKN the one who is setting the 2 posts as sticky?

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thewizofthewest

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15. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/27/2003 5:02:51 AM GMTDT

The moment I saw this I immediatly copied and pasted this post onto word , saved it , and never had a worry about sc strategy. You sure you aren't
a pro? Cause you're really amazing.

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DeltaFlyer13

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16. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 7/28/2003 11:37:38 AM GMTDT

Yeah black, 'cause this forum's basically dead now compared to the others and Blizz cares more for WoW/TFT/War3 then SC/BW. I don't blame them. Hell I hardly visit anymore...I'm usually on the D2 forums.

I'm baaaaaaack!! Guess who's back, back again, Delta's back, tell some men. Rub my back, rub my back, rub my back, rub my back..

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17. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 8/2/2003 12:27:14 PM GMTDT

Great Post dude Even though i am a "expert" at bw this post is a good 1 for beginners

ZX_NewbieHere

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18. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 8/2/2003 4:19:55 PM GMTDT

Hey, this post saved my butt in SC! Great job! =)

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bunniesarefunny

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19. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 8/6/2003 7:07:44 PM GMTDT

Great post, I'd just like to add one more thing.
If somebody plays as protoss, he should build two pylons when only one is necessary. Otherwise, the opponent can of course knock out power to huge chunks of a base.

TyraeI

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20. Re: Beginner's Guide to Starcraft | 8/7/2003 3:23:20 AM GMTDT

That may be right in some situations, bunniesarefunny, but don't waste money on that kind of thing in the beginning of the game.

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